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The Great Silence (1968)
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Filmjuwelen Germany 4K has the same problematic master, and some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Format

UHD Blu-ray

UHD Tiers

Disappointing
Filmjuwelen Germany:

same problematic 4K (or 2K) master, some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Length

106 mins

Type

Movie

Last Updated

a year ago

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Best Video Release

Filmjuwelen Germany 4K has the same problematic master, and some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Format
UHD Blu-ray
UHD Tiers
Disappointing
Filmjuwelen Germany:

same problematic 4K (or 2K) master, some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Length
106 mins
Type
Movie
Last Updated
a year ago
Contributors

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Eureka 4K UHD image is frequently stunning and far better than the Kino UHD using the same master. (no surprise) However there is frozen grain throughout baked into the Paramount master, some shots are soft due to management (some are inherently soft) and the HDR is questionable in areas. In some areas the old Eureka BD using the same scan in SDR is preferable. As usual, the issues are Paramount's doing and the only way to escape them would be starting from scratch.

Best Audio:

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Additional Info:

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