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The Great Silence (1968)
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Filmjuwelen Germany 4K has the same problematic master, and some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

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UHD Blu-ray

UHD Tiers

Disappointing
Filmjuwelen Germany:

same problematic 4K (or 2K) master, some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Length

106 mins

Type

Movie

Last Updated

a year ago

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Best Video Release

Filmjuwelen Germany 4K has the same problematic master, and some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Format
UHD Blu-ray
UHD Tiers
Disappointing
Filmjuwelen Germany:

same problematic 4K (or 2K) master, some subtitles with errors and slightly out of sync, not-so-good encoding

Length
106 mins
Type
Movie
Last Updated
a year ago
Contributors

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