Downfall (2004)
Der Untergang
Drama, History, War • 2h 35m
Director: Oliver Hirschbiegel
Cast: Bruno Ganz, Alexandra Maria Lara, Corinna Harfouch, Ulrich Matthes, Juliane Köhler, Heino Ferch, Christian Berkel, Thomas Kretschmann, Ulrich Noethen, Birgit Minichmayr, Rolf Kanies, Justus von Dohnányi, Michael Mendl, André Hennicke, Christian Redl, Götz Otto, Thomas Limpinsel, Thomas Thieme, Donevan Gunia, Matthias Habich, Alexander Held, Devid Striesow, Dieter Mann, Bettina Redlich, Heinrich Schmieder, Anna Thalbach, Dietrich Hollinderbäumer, Ulrike Krumbiegel, Karl Kranzkowski, Thorsten Krohn, Jürgen Tonkel, Fabian Busch, Christian Hoening, Dirk Borchardt, Elizaveta Boyarskaya, Michael Brandner, Igor Bubenchikov, Martin Butzke, Dmitriy Bykovskiy-Romashov, Mathias Gnädinger, Bohdan Graczyk, Norbert Heckner, Enno Hesse, Julia Jentsch, Michael Kind, Elisabeth von Koch, Konstantin Lukashov, Stefan Mehren, Katerina Poladjan, Tanja Schleiff, Christian Schmidt, August Schmölzer, Jurij Schrader, Mariya Semyonova, Klaus-Jürgen Steinmann, Veit Stübner, Oliver Stritzel, Vsevolod Tsurilo, Henning Peker, Dieter Rupp, Andrey Blagoslovenskiy, Valeriy Salomakhin, Igor Sergeev, Traudl Junge
Canada Blu-ray or Netherlands Blu-ray?
Best English-friendly release · updated 1 month ago
UHD tiers
German import, Australia Imprint 4K Blu-ray's encode is awful.
Overview
In April of 1945, Germany stands at the brink of defeat with the Russian Army closing in from the east and the Allied Expeditionary Force attacking from the west. In Berlin, capital of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler proclaims that Germany will still achieve victory and orders his generals and advisers to fight to the last man. When the end finally does come, and Hitler lies dead by his own hand, what is left of his military must find a way to end the killing that is the Battle of Berlin, and lay down their arms in surrender.
Director: John Schlesinger
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: Blu-ray.com (opens in a new tab)
Included Imprint Blu-Ray also has markedly better image compression than the Criterion Blu-Ray, though do note the Imprint has some adjusted color grading within roughly the first five minutes of the film
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16775595&postcount=450
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=24237074&postcount=73
Director: Martin Scorsese
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: facebook.com (opens in a new tab) · Criterion Forum (opens in a new tab) · blah-ray.blogspot.com (opens in a new tab)
Imprint Australia 4K Blu-ray has slightly better compression than Criterion 4K Blu-ray.
The master in DV looks all but identical to the Criterion’s HDR grade. Detail-wise, FiM’s encode looks like it uncovered a tiny bit of extra high-frequency information that got filtered on the Criterion. See nicolas review
1990 Criterion LaserDisc/1993 MGM LaserDisc/2002 R2 MGM DVD are the best. See blah-ray https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2018/01/raging-bull-1980.html
Imprint Australia 4K Blu-ray has better audio than Criterion 4K Blu-ray, from nicolas:
I believe that what’s on Imprint’s 4K is one of the good mixes MGM and Criterion released during the LaserDisc days. Music is powerful and detailed, dialogues have excellent fidelity and ambient sounds have perceptible depth. I compared the "new" 2.0 with the anemic 5.1 as well as the Criterion 4K mix and could clearly hear the improvements.
Director: Jack Cardiff
Best format: HD Streaming
Director: Robert De Niro
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
UK 88 Films 4K Blu-ray in October
Australia Imprint Blu-ray?
Germany Filmjuwelen 4K Blu-ray is disappointing with AI upscaling
Director: Iain Softley
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Director: Steven Shainberg
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Director: Akira Kurosawa
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Director: Elliott Nugent
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Sources: DVDBeaver (opens in a new tab)
Kino Lorber Blu-ray is a newer 4K restoration than Imprint Blu-ray and significantly better see caps
No information on French Elephant Films Blu-ray
Director: Kathryn Bigelow
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: slow.pics (opens in a new tab) · Blu-ray.com (opens in a new tab)
UK ICON 4K Blu-ray (caps)
UK 4K Blu-ray has a slightly better encode than US Shout! Factory 4K Blu-ray and Germany StudioCanal 4K Blu-ray
5.1 mix is flawed on Shout! Factory/ICON, a phasey upmix instead of the proper discrete surround. The UHD 2.0 tracks are downmixes of that track.
2008 Fox Blu-ray sounds great, very close to the original 70mm mix, only with split surround.
2001 DVD has the original mix as 4.1 and matrixed 2.0.
Imprint 4K has a 4.0 track. The StudioCanal 4K Blu-ray has a different 5.1, unclear if it's the same as Fox BD.
More Drama on Blu-ray
Director: David Fincher
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
4K Blu-ray has exclusive “unrated” audio with a small change to one line under the request of David Fincher (removed the poor dub over of frickin’ in the line “Screw it, let’s gut the f**kin’ nerd.”).
Director: Josh Safdie
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: testsbluray.com (opens in a new tab) · Blu-ray.com (opens in a new tab)
Entertainment in Video UK 4K Blu-ray or French Metropolitan 4K Blu-ray
The UK 4K Blu-ray and Canada 4K Blu-ray both do not have the low-pass that the US 4K Blu-ray has. The UK 4K Blu-ray has some general blockiness and chroma artifacting issues, but the Canada 4K Blu-ray has at least a handful of scenes where the encode completely falls apart and massive macroblocks are visible. The Canada 4K Blu-ray also does not have hardcoded forced subtitles for the newsreel scene like the US and UK 4K Blu-rays. The grade is the same between all three discs.
See tenia's review of the French 4K Blu-ray but no comparison available
The Atmos mix is the same between the US 4K Blu-ray and the UK 4K Blu-ray save for the amount of dynamic objects: the UK 4K Blu-ray has 15 to the USA's 11.
The UK 4K Blu-ray also has a DD-EX compatibility track and a lossless version of the commentary track that is in Dolby Digital on the US and Canada 4K Blu-rays.
UK 4K plays fine in motion https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=24007274&postcount=181
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Signal One UK Blu-Ray
Signal One UK Blu-Ray
Gorgeously filmic 2K remaster supervised and approved by Jerry Schatzberg from Fox and flawlessly encoded by FiM.
Director: Chris Columbus
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: slow.pics (opens in a new tab)
Disney 4K Blu-ray has encoding issues with bitrates dipping into 40mbps, and Kaleidescape has better encoding than Disney see caps
Old Fox Blu-ray master is stretched and sharpened
Director: David Lean
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Carlotta Blu-ray
Sources: Blu-ray.com (opens in a new tab)
Carlotta Blu-ray
Sourced from Criterion's 4K remaster, but with encoding by FiM
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=24317015&postcount=132
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: YouTube (opens in a new tab) · Blu-ray.com (opens in a new tab)
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: capelight.de (opens in a new tab)
Arrow UK 4K Blu-ray > Paramount US, same black crush as the US disc but encoded by FiM and very good new supplements
Paramount US 4K Blu-ray has FEL Dolby Vision
Arrow UK 4K Blu-ray has MEL Dolby Vision
Director: Martin Scorsese
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
2024 Sony 4K Blu-ray Steelbook
Sources: blah-ray.blogspot.com (opens in a new tab)
2024 Sony 4K Blu-ray Steelbook fixes duplicate shot seen on the previous Columbia Classics release and has better encoding
Original mono mix: 1990 Criterion LaserDisc/1991 Columbia LaserDisc
The 4K Blu-ray mono is only minimally worse (see blah-ray).
5.1 remix: Sony 4K Blu-ray
Best format: 1080p Blu-ray
Director: Rob Reiner
Best format: UHD Blu-ray
Sources: Blu-ray.com (opens in a new tab) · instagram.com (opens in a new tab)
UK Arrow 4K Blu-ray > US Kino Lorber/Germany Capelight - caps and audio comparison on this page. Discussion is still ongoing about the 2.0 but as none of the three 4Ks seem to have the true original mix, I think it's fair to leave them all in the blue tier for now and only note that Kino Lorber has the worst PQ.
The initial release of the Capelight 4K mediabook had some playback issues with Dolby Vision on Panasonic devices due to an encoding error, the HDR10 apparently works fine, see Capelight’s official response here.
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